Wings of Fire Book 16 (Wings of Fire #16)
Wings of Fire Book 16 (Wings of Fire #16) by Tui T. Sutherland
Visitor | 79 replies | April 11, 2024
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Wings of Fire Book 16 (Wings of Fire #16)
Wings of Fire Book 16 (Wings of Fire #16) by Tui T. Sutherland
Visitor | 39 replies | April 11, 2024
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Escaping Peril (Wings of Fire Graphix #8)
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Wings of Fire Book 16 (Wings of Fire #16) by Tui T. Sutherland
Wings of Fire Book 16
Wings of Fire #16
by Tui T. Sutherland

From #1 New York Times bestselling author Tui T. Sutherland comes the 16th highly anticipated novel in Wings of Fire series which will start a new Prophecy after The Flames of Hope.

This is the first installment of the fourth arc of the Wings of Fire series. 

57 days ago
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I was thinking that we go years into the future, so the dragonets from the first three arcs are grown up. They have kids, (I don't know what their names should be) who live together in a small rain forest. One day, war occurs, because a dragon is trying to become queen of the whole world (both continents). The dragonets have to try to stop her, because they remember her as the mean lady that kidnapped them when they were young. I have no idea what the character's names should be, but I feel like this would be a good plot for a new book.
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55 days ago
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I like the fast forwarding time thing but made a different plot?
53 days ago
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definitely a different plot, it seems a bit obvious i agree.
52 days ago
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good idea but needs the wings of fire vibe a bit more.
51 days ago
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I like the idea of a different plot.
46 days ago
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I like the idea of a dragon trying to take over the world. Introducing the SkyWing revolution, where almost all of Scarlet’s advisors have turned against Ruby, and take sides with a Powrr-Hyngry skywing. In the kingdom of Sand, a revolution has also broken, with thorn for queen fighting against Vulture. The hive wings want wasp back, Nightwings want Fierceteeth,  All of them trying to Rule the World. The three Challengers force every other tribes into war, but the LeafSilk Kingdom Fights back.
46 days ago
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what if the new main characters were the dragonets from Moon's vision in book 6?
45 days ago
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Mabye could also have a new part of Seawings who live deeper that can help the LeafSilk kingdom but gets revealed later in the story. At the end?
44 days ago
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maybe a new animus. like in a tribe that doesnt have any animus dragons? 
35 days ago
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Just a thought...

What if the humans take over the world and the dragons are enslaved? There is a rebellion of humans and dragons who still want peace, trying to fight against the emperor.
31 days ago
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I hate to be a critic, but on the SkyWing side, I believe that Scarlet's advisors didn't like Scarlet very much to begin with. Any who do not openly support Ruby would not be in as much of a position of power, if they're in any position of power at all. There are also too many dragons who like Ruby for that to be the most effective plot. the power-hungry SkyWing is likely, as there are always power-hungry people, and, since dragons and humans have many phycological similarities, it stands to reason that there would also be many power-hungry dragons. My only concerns about that are how is this power-hungry SkyWing making it known to other dragons that he/she is hungry for power, and how is he/she gaining followers? With the SandWings, there are too many dragons who support Thorn for Vulture to be a sufficient threat, especially after his talons of power were defeated and rehabilitated, Onyx was made unable to fight, and Darkstalker was defeated. And, if another animus decides to help him, which he would need for the Eye of Onyx to choose him, what are his/her reasons? With the HiveWings, I don't think they'd want Wasp back, especially after they were released from the brainwashing and the new generations had heard the horror stories. On the NightWing side, Glory is good enough of a queen for it to be unlikely that a large percentage of NightWings would want Fierceteeth, especially with Fierceteeth being busy with Renewal, where the NightWings who don't want Glory could just go. If the scenario was possible, all of them trying to rule the world seems likely, and I have nothing to say against that part, but how would the challengers force every other tribe into war? The only reason it happened with The War of SandWing Succession was because each of the potential queens had a legitimate right to the throne. And if the Leaf-Silk kingdom were to fight back, which seems likely, why would they fight back against the dragons from the other continent, which is a long journey away? Once again, sorry for being such a critic, but I felt the need to state that it is impossible for this scenario to happen, given all the history, phycology, and current situations.
31 days ago
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I like the idea of the humans trying to take over the world, but, seeing the reaction to Dragonslayer, with people saying there wasn't enough dragons, it is unlikely that Tui would make an entire arc about that. She might make a single book, with Sky as the main character or something, in order for the epilogue at the end of Dragonslayer to be resolved.
29 days ago
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I think Moon and Qibli's children should be called Skyfire, Truthseeker, and Scorpion. Also what happened to Sora and Umber?
22 days ago
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WHat DID happen to Sora and Umber?
18 days ago
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Will there be a new wing and I would like one of the books in the new ark to focus more on a mud wing because there's like no love for the mud wings
18 days ago
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I mean, you get to know Sora a tiny bit in book six, but other than that, she and Umber are just there. They don't really have much of a part in the series.
17 days ago
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Personally, I want to know what happened to Onyx. Did she give up on the throne? If there’s a Sandwing uprising, she’s sure to be a part of it. I agree that we need another Mudwing protagonist though. I could see some unrest with the Hivewings, because the last chapter of The Flames of Hope mentioned Hivewings wanting Wasp back, but I expect they’ll see Wasp was terrible in the end. I definitely want to know more about the Leafsilk kingdom though!
16 days ago
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We need another RainWing book right!?
15 days ago
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Visitor, (February 27, 2024)what if the new main characters were the dragonets from Moon's vision in book 6?
I think this is a really good idea as they would be part of the next generation of dragons. But it might be a little weird because it would be stretching All the way back to the first book of arc two and it would seem more like an arc in between the second and third arc’s. I think maybe it should be about Auklet, Peacemaker, Cliff, Bumblebee, and another protagonist that I can’t think of at the moment.
15 days ago
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Visitor, (March 28, 2024)We need another RainWing book right!?
I have a new Wings of Fire series suggestion this is it: (Wings of Fire What if?)  an example of this could be What if darkstalker never had Animus, or What if Darkstalker  never did the bad things, or what if Wren was obedient or never found Sky?
8 days ago
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How might their inclusion impact the overall narrative structure, considering that it would require going back to the first book of Arc Two and potentially creating a separate arc between the second and third arcs?
7 days ago
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I heard like a year ago that the next arc would be about cliff, and I also have some other suggestions about the other dragonets like bumblebee and auklet. Maybe peacemaker? Or that silkwing dragonet that Luna helps in her book. Also, I say chameleon for the villain, and maybe vulture could come back. Maybe it could be like four years later, like when starflight gets married and stuff. Then maybe if tui does a fifth arc, it could be about their dragonets, like the prophecy ones. Also, if Darkstalker found morrowseer and made him like come alive that would be cool.
6 days ago
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Visitor, (March 25, 2024)Will there be a new wing and I would like one of the books in the new ark to focus more on a mud wing because there's like no love for the mud wings
I agree. MudWings are underated.
6 days ago
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Visitor, (February 15, 2024)I was thinking that we go years into the future, so the dragonets from the first three arcs are grown up. They have kids, (I don't know what their names should be) who live together in a small rain forest. One day, war occurs, because a dragon is trying to become queen of the whole world (both continents). The dragonets have to try to stop her, because they remember her as the mean lady that kidnapped them when they were young. I have no idea what the character's names should be, but I feel like this would be a good plot for a new book.
But where is the rainforest, Pantala or Pyrrhia?
6 days ago
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Visitor, (February 20, 2024)good idea but needs the wings of fire vibe a bit more.
I agree. In book five, the false brightest night had that "wings of fire" vibe.
6 days ago
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Visitor, (March 14, 2024)I think Moon and Qibli's children should be called Skyfire, Truthseeker, and Scorpion. Also what happened to Sora and Umber?
I agree. Where would they go? Where could they go? There runaways.
6 days ago
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Visitor, (February 29, 2024)maybe a new animus. like in a tribe that doesnt have any animus dragons? 
I disagree. SkyWings kill their animus dragons. SilkWings, HiveWings, and LeafWings never had any because it is genetic. But in book 14, Boa said "I hereby enchant this candleholder, so that when I shatter it, I shatter the power of all CURRENT animus dragons." But I think it shoud be a MudWing. They get the least respect.
6 days ago
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Visitor, (March 25, 2024)Will there be a new wing and I would like one of the books in the new ark to focus more on a mud wing because there's like no love for the mud wings
I saw somewhere that BeetleWings might be involved in some anceint history thing. I also saw some tribe called the SpaceWings.
6 days ago
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Beetlewings do not exist bro
5 days ago
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I think that there should be another continent, there will be more tribes and they are on the brink of extinction because there is an illness there and we later learn that there is another evil on the continent. Nobody has ever heard of the continent.
5 days ago
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Visitor, (February 27, 2024)what if the new main characters were the dragonets from Moon's vision in book 6?
What vision?
5 days ago
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Visitor, (February 29, 2024)maybe a new animus. like in a tribe that doesnt have any animus dragons? 
I disagree. SkyWings kill their animus dragons. SilkWings, HiveWings, and LeafWings never had any because it is genetic. But in book 14, Boa said "I hereby enchant this candleholder, so that when I shatter it, I shatter the power of all CURRENT animus dragons." But I think it shoud be a MudWing. They get the least respect.
What, what happened to Boa? We never got to know what happened to her in the end of book 14.
I also never really understood her past.
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5 days ago
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Visitor, (March 25, 2024)Will there be a new wing and I would like one of the books in the new ark to focus more on a mud wing because there's like no love for the mud wings
I saw somewhere that BeetleWings might be involved in some anceint history thing. I also saw some tribe called the SpaceWings.
That would be really interesting. What if they are like the colors of Icewings and Nightwings, and Silkwings. And I have a question, what is the name of the planet all the dragons live in? And what if they are the oldest tribe in the world, and that they are on a third continent.
5 days ago
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I think that the tribes should fall apart because there are too many hybrids. Almost none of the main characters are in love with someone from there own tribe! Also, I would like an explanation of skyfire! It's so random!
5 days ago
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Visitor, (February 29, 2024)maybe a new animus. like in a tribe that doesnt have any animus dragons? 
I disagree. SkyWings kill their animus dragons. SilkWings, HiveWings, and LeafWings never had any because it is genetic. But in book 14, Boa said "I hereby enchant this candleholder, so that when I shatter it, I shatter the power of all CURRENT animus dragons." But I think it shoud be a MudWing. They get the least respect.
I never realized that BOA only said the current Animus dragons
4 days ago
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Maybe there could be a new tribe of dragons in between the two continents, the islands the silkwings and Leaf wings used to cross the ocean. Hopefully a tribe with cool stuff like suffocating smog gas!
3 days ago
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I heard like a year ago that the next arc would be about cliff, and I also have some other suggestions about the other dragonets like bumblebee and auklet. Maybe peacemaker? Or that silkwing dragonet that Luna helps in her book. Also, I say chameleon for the villain, and maybe vulture could come back. Maybe it could be like four years later, like when starflight gets married and stuff. Then maybe if tui does a fifth arc, it could be about their dragonets, like the prophecy ones. Also, if Darkstalker found morrowseer and made him like come alive that would be cool.

Yes, I like that idea. I'm pretty sure the silkwing you're talking about is Dusky though, which would be perfect in my opinion. But Darkstalker bringing Morrowseer back? First of all, Darkstalker is now Peacemaker. Second of all, Animus magic doesn't work anymore. And lastly, Animus magic can NOT bring people back from the dead. Also, Chameleon is a follower, not a leader. He would need someone to do the work for, like someone in higher command. Vulture wouldn't be the best main villain in my opinion, just because he has no main goal that would need the whole 4th arc to solve. He could be like, a villain for one book, which honestly already happened and I don't think it should happen again. (I'm talking about book 10, if you don't already know). I do like the idea of a time skip though, but the other arcs are each around 4 months to 1 year apart, so I think 4 years is a little to much. I think maybe 1 year and 3 months to be precise, just so the 4th arc (Just in case it's based on the baby dragonets in the 1st 3 arcs) could be older.
 
Also, it would be strange and cool at the same time if Bumblebee found out that her actual parents were (I don't have a dad yet, the mom could've killed him), and Queen Wasp. Just a thought though... ALSO WE NEED TO FIND OUT WHO CLIFF'S DAD IS. I honestly ship clifflet, so i feel like that should be canon. Peacemaker, I don't really have anything for, maybe he finds out that he used to be Darkstalker, and hides away from everyone, afraid of what he might become. Auklet, I don't know. I also don't know about what Dusky should do. These are all small journeys that each dragonet should go on. Also, I feel like the arc should be about trying to bring animus magic back, because why not.
3 days ago
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Why do all tribes have queens. I think there should be a tribe based on lions (maybe the RoarWings?), that is ruled by a king.
2 days ago
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Visitor, (February 29, 2024)maybe a new animus. like in a tribe that doesnt have any animus dragons? 
I disagree. SkyWings kill their animus dragons. SilkWings, HiveWings, and LeafWings never had any because it is genetic. But in book 14, Boa said "I hereby enchant this candleholder, so that when I shatter it, I shatter the power of all CURRENT animus dragons." But I think it shoud be a MudWing. They get the least respect.
What, what happened to Boa? We never got to know what happened to her in the end of book 14.
I also never really understood her past.
Boa grows up to be the Jerboa that appears in Darkstalkers throne room as well as the dragon who meets Luna on the shore of Pyrrhia 
2 days ago
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Going off the other comments and my own little headcanons these are my personal idea for the next arc-
 
Disclaimer-mainly focused on the holes in the Dragonslayer story in case you don't like that particular book
 
Villains?
I think that it will mainly be focused on bringing down the evil humans (with more dragon intervention ofc) primary the dragonmancers and the invincible lord (similar to how other arca have two main villains like Scarlet and morrowseer; Scarlet/chameleon and darkstalker; and wasp and cottonmouth)

Plot detail stuff?
 I think that the chest that Leaf saw in trouts house (with three padlocks) contains the other part of the icewings gift of understanding (possible a gift to the skywings to make peace?) the first three books will focus on taking down the dragonmancers with either the 19 or 20 book culminating with wren's capture and sky having to save her in his book. A random thing I was thinking was, what if the invincible lord is cottonmouths brother, Coyote using magic to make himself immortal and killing off his sons and impersonating them to make it seem like he's different people (explaining his exasperation with undountable for being unlike him.) I personally think Tui will not introduce more tribes as personally I felt like she was running out of ideas when creating the pantalan dragons because she just needed dragons to fill her new continent. Also, we need to see sky and Peril meet (I kinda think that sky will be fireproof, or have an ability that allows him to "absorb and use" flame he comes into contact with, but that's just something i think would be cool, given the fact he has "too little" fire)
 
The reason I think my theory is somewhat ok is simply because Tui said that she wanted to write a story about dragons making peace with humans, but from a dragon pov. The dragons have already built one side of the bridge of peace with the "no eating humans" rule in book 14. Now the crew will have to start building that bridge from the human side by taking down those that disrupt that peace for their own power (dragonmancers and Invinsible Lord using fear to control their subjects.) 
 
Characters?
I agree with the rest of the comments that a Cliff book would make sense and be pretty fun. Dusky should also get a book as well as (if my theory is correct) sky. I think Tui should make another mudwing book, but I think it would have to be either a new or barely glimpsed character (kind of like snowfall.) That would leave the last spot to either bumblebee or auklet and I personally could see either getting a book.
 
Magic?
 I think that it might actually work with the story for Cliff to awaken Animus magic. This would fits with Tui's "breaking tradition" theme throughout the series. Given that the rest of his tribe has already accepted Peril (another should-have-died skywing) giving Cliff magic would be a perfect touch for the tradition-driven skywings to finally accept even "dangerous" tribes mates. As some have pointed out, Jerboa shattered the power of current Animus dragons, but I think that giving Cliff magic would be perfect as it would reintroduce magic as well as give a "acceptance of new things" theme which could fit with the new laws surrounding humans and the Pantalan dragons. Also giving the beloved prince of the skywings magic that he feels forced to hide would make and interesting theme for his book, possibly finishing with his using magic to save someone like his mom. (Parallel to Moon Rising's Moon feeling the need to hide her powers to fit in.) Could also possibly lead into Cliffs father being an Animus skywing who either ran away or hid his powers until he met ruby as she's the only one who knows about him (maybe giving her the strength to break past Chameleon's "NEVER challenge your mother" curse- because she was fighting for her husband as well as her son)
 
Sorry for the long read :/
23 hours ago
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Visitor, (February 27, 2024)what if the new main characters were the dragonets from Moon's vision in book 6?
What vision?
The vision that Darkstalker gave Moon about if the prophecy dragonets lived and the school worked.